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	<title>Comments on: Solar Thermal vs. Photovoltaic (PV) – Which Should You Choose?</title>
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		<title>By: FRE</title>
		<link>http://greenrednecks.com/2009/05/09/solar-thermal-vs-photovolatic-pv-%e2%80%93-which-should-you-choose/comment-page-1/#comment-487</link>
		<dc:creator>FRE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 21:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem here is that PV depends on subsidies.  Without the subsidies, it would not pay for home owners to have PV power.  Thus, when a neighbor installs a PV system, I am paying for part of his subsidy, which I consider unfair.

Power companies lose out with home PV systems.  Most of the cost of generating electricity is not in the fuel, but rather, in investment and labor costs.  Thus, even if home PV systems slightly reduced the cost of fuel for power companies, the amount saved could not justify the power company&#039;s paying PV owners for the power.  Moreover, because the power from PV systems is somewhat unpredictable, it makes it difficult for power companies to adjust their generating output as the power from PV systems change.

The PV systems described here do not provide power at night, yet homeowners use power 24 hours a day.

If PV systems were not connected to the grid, were not subsidized in any way, and included storage so that adequate power would be provided 24 hours a day without fail, then the cost would be well beyond what most homeowners would be willing or able to pay.  However, that may not be a permanent problem.  It may be that at some future date, the costs will decline so that even with adequate storage, PV systems could be justified on an economic basis.  However, that time may never come.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem here is that PV depends on subsidies.  Without the subsidies, it would not pay for home owners to have PV power.  Thus, when a neighbor installs a PV system, I am paying for part of his subsidy, which I consider unfair.</p>
<p>Power companies lose out with home PV systems.  Most of the cost of generating electricity is not in the fuel, but rather, in investment and labor costs.  Thus, even if home PV systems slightly reduced the cost of fuel for power companies, the amount saved could not justify the power company&#8217;s paying PV owners for the power.  Moreover, because the power from PV systems is somewhat unpredictable, it makes it difficult for power companies to adjust their generating output as the power from PV systems change.</p>
<p>The PV systems described here do not provide power at night, yet homeowners use power 24 hours a day.</p>
<p>If PV systems were not connected to the grid, were not subsidized in any way, and included storage so that adequate power would be provided 24 hours a day without fail, then the cost would be well beyond what most homeowners would be willing or able to pay.  However, that may not be a permanent problem.  It may be that at some future date, the costs will decline so that even with adequate storage, PV systems could be justified on an economic basis.  However, that time may never come.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Greene</title>
		<link>http://greenrednecks.com/2009/05/09/solar-thermal-vs-photovolatic-pv-%e2%80%93-which-should-you-choose/comment-page-1/#comment-316</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Greene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 02:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, that&#039;s a good question - and one that is beyond my expertise.  A lot of people make decisions based on estimating stuff like that, but I&#039;m not aware of a formula.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, that&#8217;s a good question &#8211; and one that is beyond my expertise.  A lot of people make decisions based on estimating stuff like that, but I&#8217;m not aware of a formula.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Mikulewicz</title>
		<link>http://greenrednecks.com/2009/05/09/solar-thermal-vs-photovolatic-pv-%e2%80%93-which-should-you-choose/comment-page-1/#comment-313</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Mikulewicz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 18:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi there, Andy.  I&#039;ve been trying to find an equivalence between solar water and solar
electric, which is to say: How many squares of photovoltaic panel would equal one
square of  solar water panel in energy capture given the same solar exposure?

I know this is apples and oranges here (Btu&#039;s and watts) but I would be pleased if you could shed some light, so to speak, on this. 

Bob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there, Andy.  I&#8217;ve been trying to find an equivalence between solar water and solar<br />
electric, which is to say: How many squares of photovoltaic panel would equal one<br />
square of  solar water panel in energy capture given the same solar exposure?</p>
<p>I know this is apples and oranges here (Btu&#8217;s and watts) but I would be pleased if you could shed some light, so to speak, on this. </p>
<p>Bob</p>
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		<title>By: RICHARD PALMERI</title>
		<link>http://greenrednecks.com/2009/05/09/solar-thermal-vs-photovolatic-pv-%e2%80%93-which-should-you-choose/comment-page-1/#comment-207</link>
		<dc:creator>RICHARD PALMERI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HI
AM AN ARCHITECT IN FL.
LIKE YOUR OPINION OF SOLAR THERMAL VS PV .
CRITERIA:
200MW
DESERT APP.
WE HAVE TO MANAGE FOR 20 YRS
LIKE DOLLAR COMPARISONS COST AND MAINTENANCE 
LAND IS NOT AN ISSUE
THANKS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HI<br />
AM AN ARCHITECT IN FL.<br />
LIKE YOUR OPINION OF SOLAR THERMAL VS PV .<br />
CRITERIA:<br />
200MW<br />
DESERT APP.<br />
WE HAVE TO MANAGE FOR 20 YRS<br />
LIKE DOLLAR COMPARISONS COST AND MAINTENANCE<br />
LAND IS NOT AN ISSUE<br />
THANKS</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Greene</title>
		<link>http://greenrednecks.com/2009/05/09/solar-thermal-vs-photovolatic-pv-%e2%80%93-which-should-you-choose/comment-page-1/#comment-31</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Greene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 00:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the kind words, Lynn.  I added you to the blogroll.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the kind words, Lynn.  I added you to the blogroll.</p>
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		<title>By: Lynn from Organicmania.com</title>
		<link>http://greenrednecks.com/2009/05/09/solar-thermal-vs-photovolatic-pv-%e2%80%93-which-should-you-choose/comment-page-1/#comment-29</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynn from Organicmania.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 22:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy, I got such a kick out of the description on your &quot;about&quot; page. I totally agree with you! My father was a dairy farmer, and I definitely know country ways, even though I&#039;m a certified city slicker now!

Keep up the good work with renewable energy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy, I got such a kick out of the description on your &#8220;about&#8221; page. I totally agree with you! My father was a dairy farmer, and I definitely know country ways, even though I&#8217;m a certified city slicker now!</p>
<p>Keep up the good work with renewable energy!</p>
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